Comments for blog.limedaley.com/post/taking-his-name

Comment #1335

2008-02-24T11:35:50Z

I was prodded in prayer early this morning about this very commandment. Having felt like you that there had to be more than just slightly changing our profanity. I also had the "adopted sons and daughters" and "bride of Christ" come to mind. Having just completed the Left Behind series it also occurred to me that the Trib Force cautioned people about saying the prayer only to save their skin. It seemed to me many professing Christians are taking that name in vain - for social or business reasons. I went looking for a dictionary definition of "To take in vain" and ound your site. Thank you.

Comment #1334

2007-08-14T16:57:34Z

she's right, and i'm no farther...

Comment #1333

2007-08-08T22:35:33Z

yes that makes sense now, thanks for the clarification.

Comment #1332

2007-08-06T13:39:09Z

Jimmy, I believe Stephan is referring to a post Janet made a while ago about children in church.

Comment #1331

2007-08-03T00:46:57Z

theology of children?...I'm so lost here.

Comment #1330

2007-07-21T08:27:41Z

It'll take (lots of) time - I'm still mulling over a theology of children and what that means for churches. (That, too, will take considerable time.)

Comment #1329

2007-07-20T00:03:11Z

Ah, yes, now that makes sense. I am interested in your findings on "to take in vain" (when you get the chance,) since thinking about that brought me to these musings in the first place.

Comment #1328

2007-07-19T21:49:45Z

I forgot extra quotation marks:

'What would it mean to "take evil men?"'

Comment #1327

2007-07-19T21:48:23Z

It's that in English there are these verbs that change their meaning with what's added to them. "To take" is a great example - take in, take on, take up, take over all mean something else. So I think that "to take in vain" in the original is probably not a "to take" verb, but a different altogether (I'd have to check and I can't right now) - and thus, separating "to take" from the "in vain" modifier would be exegetically unjustified.

To make an example, let's consider the following sentence: "When making decisions, do not take evil men into account." I would not separate "to take" from "into account" here, because the meaning changes. What would it mean to "take evil men?" is the analogy to the question you follow up, and in this example it's a little more obvious that we're barking up the wrong tree.

I hope that helps clarify my reservations, and remember, I still like the application.

Comment #1326

2007-07-19T18:58:09Z

Stephan - I don't understand what you mean. Is it grammatically wrong to take a "shall not" and turn the sentence around so you get a "shall"? It makes sense to me to search for how we should take His name if "in vain" is how we shouldn't. But maybe that's because I didn't even know there was a name for that category of verbs before I read your comment. (:

Comment #1325

2007-07-19T13:53:24Z

I like the application and the truth in it, but I can't quite get past the step of taking a modal verb and halving it to get to the application. Nevertheless, thanks for the thought - and for commenting, which brought me here.

Comment #1324

2007-07-16T18:23:00Z

Wow. Thanks.

Comment #1323

2007-07-16T16:35:06Z

Yes, and I get the same shiver as Heather mentioned before.

Comment #1322

2007-07-16T13:14:39Z

That's beautiful!