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<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0"><updated>2009-09-30T19:22:21Z</updated><id>tag:sursumcorda.salemsattic.com,2018:/isso/thread/post/hooray-for-the-swiss</id><title>Comments for sursumcorda.salemsattic.com/post/hooray-for-the-swiss</title><entry><id>tag:sursumcorda.salemsattic.com,2018:/isso/270/925</id><title>Comment #925</title><updated>2009-09-30T19:22:21Z</updated><author><name>Stephan</name></author><link href="https://sursumcorda.salemsattic.com/post/hooray-for-the-swiss#isso-925" /><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Statutory rape is a term we have because fornication is no longer considered a crime, but we can't shake the feeling that not all consensual copulation is born equal, that perhaps the consent of a thirteen-year old under influence of champagne, a jacuzzi, and a smooth authority figure isn't what we mean by consent.  Sure, plenty of people think the letter of the law is silly, making the older of a seventeen-year-old pair of lovers a criminal on his next birthday, but as we see with the public by and large agreeing with Polanski's arrest statutory rape with enough of an age difference still intuitively counts quite a bit for a good chunk of the population (I'd say 100%, based on the teenagers interviewed for the free newspapers here).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I think the main reason we have this flap over a pedophile being arrested is that people confuse forgiveness with justice.  Apparently, the wronged girl has since grown up, had children, and forgiven Polanski - and a good number of loud people seem to think that makes everything all right.  They remember enough hearsay from the Bible that they associate forgiveness with redemption and make a leap to &amp;quot;well, that's taken care of, now let's forget about it and move on,&amp;quot; maybe because some well-intentioned preacher once told them something about &amp;quot;forgive and forget,&amp;quot; and the nasty alliteration stuck.  But justice must be done, no matter how forgiven the criminal, and justice must be blind, not forgetful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are unsettling questions, such as why he wasn't arrested any sooner (say, on his skiing vacations in his chalet in Gstaad), but they're minor irritations.&lt;/p&gt;</content></entry><entry><id>tag:sursumcorda.salemsattic.com,2018:/isso/270/924</id><title>Comment #924</title><updated>2009-09-29T11:07:26Z</updated><author><name>SursumCorda</name></author><link href="https://sursumcorda.salemsattic.com/post/hooray-for-the-swiss#isso-924" /><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Even if one buys the idea that statutory rape is &amp;quot;no big deal,&amp;quot; this points up the dangers of plea bargaining.  Our friends in the legal system assure me that what a plea bargainer is actually guilty of is often much, much worse than what ends up on his record.  Reading the news stories you can get the impression that what Polanski had was a consensual dalliance with someone who happens, in our current society, to be considered underage.  But if you look at what Polanski was charged with (at least if you trust Wikipedia on this one), it's a lot nastier than that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know, there are also innocent people who accept a plea bargain because they can't afford the fight; somehow I don't think Polanski falls into that category.&lt;/p&gt;</content></entry><entry><id>tag:sursumcorda.salemsattic.com,2018:/isso/270/923</id><title>Comment #923</title><updated>2009-09-29T01:09:35Z</updated><author><name>Phil</name></author><link href="https://sursumcorda.salemsattic.com/post/hooray-for-the-swiss#isso-923" /><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;I'll bet that a lot of those people dont just support Polanski because he's famous but also because they think satutory rape is no big deal.  They basically view sex as the equivalent of shaking hands.  Any Polanski supporter who doesn't feel that way is welcome to explain otherwise.  IMO they're psychotic.&lt;/p&gt;</content></entry></feed>