2022-09-15T01:41:02Ztag:sursumcorda.salemsattic.com,2018:/isso/thread/post/independence-hall-speechtag:sursumcorda.salemsattic.com,2018:/isso/1163/41282022-09-15T01:41:02ZSursumCorda<p>I share his concerns, though not for his reasons. There has <em>always</em> been election fraud, and I don't understand those who won't admit it. My father remembered the days when you got your ballot in an envelope and plenty of people didn't bother to vote unless money fell out with it. Porter remembers a museum exhibit of rigged voting machines in New York's capital. The ballot wasn't always secret, and in some places you cast your vote under the watchful eyes of your employer, or landlord, or someone else with the power to ruin your life. Sometimes they even filled out your ballot for you. Chicago, among other big cities, was notorious for the number of votes cast by dead people.</p> <p>Then there are the voting mistakes. I remember when our county managed to mess up all the overseas absentee ballots. Boxes get lost, machines break down, people make errors all the time. But mostly it doesn't matter to the results, as maddening as it is to realize that your vote wasn't counted. When you're dealing with the number of votes that must be tabulated, you simply are not going to get an error-free election.</p> <p>What's new is that voting fraud and errors are no longer local, but have the potential to make a difference in major national elections. And local problems don't stay local, but make national news. Republicans <em>and</em> Democrats get upset when an election is close enough that the &quot;fraud baseline&quot; could easily swing an election.</p>tag:sursumcorda.salemsattic.com,2018:/isso/1163/41272022-09-14T23:12:33ZStephan<p>Maybe this is why Biden expresses concern over the state of the US democracy: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republicans-trump-election-fraud/</p>